[Volvo MTF 645 свежее]

1 litre 31280 771

4 litre 31280 772

 

This oil is fully synthetic transmission oil for manual gearboxes

with excellent shifting and synchronising properties at all

temperatures, especially at low temperatures. Being a low

friction oil, the temperature in the transmission is reduced.

Viscosity is low, which means reduced fuel consumption which

in turn means less environmental impact.

 

The oil is recommended for all model years of type M65

(5-speed with 6-cyl. engine), M66, MTX75 and MMT6 and of

the type M56, M58 and M59 from and including model year

1996.

 

Technical data

 

Quality: API GL-4

Ford specification

WSS-M2C200-D2

Viscosity: SAE 75W

Color: Brown

Density: 852 kg/m³

Base: Synthetic base oil

Lowest flow point -54°C

Viscosity at +40°C: 32 mm²/s

Viscosity at +100°C: 6.4 mm²/s

 

There is this one also

 

1l 1161 845

4l 1161 846

 

This oil is fully synthetic transmission oil with excellent shifting

and synchronising properties at all temperatures, especially

low temperatures. Being a low friction oil, the temperature

in the transmission is reduced. Viscosity is low, which

means reduced fuel consumption which in turn means less

environmental impact.

The oil is recommended for all manual transmissions from and

including model year 1996 of the M56, M58 AWD, M59, M65

(5-speed with 6-cyl. engine), M90, MTX75, M66 type as well

as MMT6.

 

Technical data

 

Quality: API GL-4

Ford specification

WSS-M2C200-D

Viscosity: SAE 75W

Density: 847 kg/m3

Color: Yellow

Base: Synthetic base oil

Lowest flow point: -54° C

Flash point: +215° C

Viscosity at +40°C 30.5 mm2/s

Viscosity at +100°C 6.3 mm2/s

 

 

The viscosity at 100° is a little low compared to ATF F specs:

 

Type F

 

viscosity at 100° > 7 cst and > 6.2 after 8000 cycles of WOT test

 

 

But should not be armfull in a manual gearbox. Low temp viscosity is quite similar to the ATF.

 

BUT, as there are sold as "low friction oil", I don't know how they will work in M41 or M46 gearbox with overdrive with its clutch, filled also with ATF F...

 

Problem with Volvo oils is also the price

[Полезная информация по лаб анализам.]

Hi,

 

For information, I have attached criteria for oil change for MTU engines, Gas or diesel. If ppm of wear metals should be specific to MTU engines, criteria based on TAN, TBN, oxydation, aso... are quite universal.

[Volvo MTF 645 свежее]

Several reasons:

 

- Volvo has stoped to sell ATF F/G in their shop, and sell now the 645 as a replacement. It is not a problem in Sweden were ATF F is commonly available, but for example, in France, it is hard to find.

 

Btw, the Ravenol oil Type F is very strange ! It is both Dexron AND ATF F ! But, dexron has friction modifier, ATF F, has NO friction modifier. So, I really don't understand how it is possible. I sent a email to Ravenol to have some explainations , but I never received any answer... So, I will NEVER use it, because, for example, if you use dexron with friction modifier in a M46 , you burn the clutch of the overdrive... And friction modifiers can cause problems with syncho.

 

- ATF F is not an manual gearbox oil, not GL-4. Specs are from 1970 also... It was used in 1970 by Volvo to replace motor oil in gearbox to improve shifting at low temperatures in Sweden, but modern oils perform far better now. The 645 is GL-4 and synthetic and so, it is far better to protect the gearbox...

 

Btw, I have an UOA of a volvo 244 gearbox from 1978 I just bought but with only 60 000km filled with factory ATF. The wear results are awfull... (Attached).

 

The problem of the 645, is it flows as good as ATF and shifting at low temperature is not so good.

 

 

I have so done this VOA to find a better replacement. After looking to several oils, it seems the best are BMW MTF LT-2 oils which have a similar viscosity profile (attached)

 

I am testing now the Ravenol MTF-2 in my M47 since 1000 km and the shifting is very good for now. I am waiting for winter to see how it will perform.

[UOA Q8 T1000D tractor oil in Volvo 945]

Okay, ZDDP are high because it is a multifunctionnal oil for tractors and it has to be GL-4 also.

 

For the universal average, I think there is 2 reasons:

 

- This is a cheap mineral based oil (group I) and I think americans use mainly synthetic oils now as there are cheap in US.

 

- With little trips less than 10km, to go to 7000 km, it is 700 starts up, engine cold (-20/-30°C here in winter), and 7 km under fuel enrichment. So the wear must be high under those conditions. I suppose americans run more distance for each trip, and with better climate.

 

So, despite those conditions, I am happy with those results. I thought it would be worse ! This oil is the first price I could find in Sweden... So I think high ZDDP compensate the low quality of the base (group I). I only expected to obtain those kind of results with high priced synthetic oil, not a groupe I base oil...

 

The problem with this oil is for me the low TBN retention. For my tractor with the same oil, despite the little hours I run it each year (60), I cannot go more than 2 years before the TBN cross TAN... So I will switch to German oils (Pennasol) as soon as I will have finished my stock.

[UOA Q8 T1000D tractor oil in Volvo 945]

No other UOA for this engine, that's the first one. The next one will come next year

 

But the ppm of wear metals are inferior to the universal average for this engine on the right for more km (average of all UOAs done by Blackstone on the same engine type). So I think it is good for an engine which only does little trips with cold engine.

 

Why did you expect less wear ?

[Pennasol Lightrun 2000 10W-40 свежее]

Silicon is an anti-foaming additive. This is why a VOA is usefull. Without and just an UOA, we will investigate for an air filter problem for nothing

[UOA Q8 T1000D tractor oil in Volvo 945]

Hi all,

 

Sorry to write in english, I am from Sweden and I don't write russian, by I read this forum with pleasure with google translation..

 

Here is an UOA of my 332 000 km 1994 Volvo 945 with B200F engine, with tractor oil Q8 1000D STOU 10W30. This car mainly does 7km trips, engine cold (no warmer), twice a day, winter (-20°) and summer (20°). So there is some fuel dilution which drop down TBN fast so I chosed 7500 km OCI.

 

UOA look nice with this cheap oil, despite some silicon du to air filter problem...

 

http://www.lubebase.com/cgi-bin/ctl/lube/Q8-T1000-10W-30?id=9818

[Volvo MTF 645 свежее]

Should be Esters based oil, so high TAN, like Redline MTL for example (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/unleashedbeast/Oil%20Analysis%20and%20Amsoil%20Pics/21e55542.jpg). I like the pack ZDDP + Bromon also. But very expensive oil only sold by Volvo... About 20€/l

[Pennasol Lightrun 2000 10W-40 свежее]

Mixed fleet oil: API CI-4/SL, ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, E7

[Volvo MTF 645 свежее]

SAE 5W-30 (SAE 75W) Volvo Std 1273,08 which describes transmission oil 97308

 

Ref: 1161 645

 

A multigrade synthetic oil intended for manual transmissions in passenger cars.

 

The oil has very good low temperature properties and enables smooth gear changes down to -40°C.

The low friction contributes to low fuel consumption.

Recommended for transmissions up to and incl. model year 1995; M45, M46, M47, M90, M65 6-cyl. engine, M59 (T-yellow/red special turbo), M56, M58AWD. All model years

M5M42 GDI-engine S40/V40. The oil is developed for transmissions and has no equal on the market. The oil gives very good shifting and low-temperature characteristics.

 

Technical data

 

Quality: API GL-4

Volvo Std 1273,08 which describes transmission oil 97308

Density: 885 kg/m3

Base: Synthetic

Lowest flow point: -48°C

Flash point: +234°C/ 453°F

Viscosity at 40°C: NE

Viscosity at 100°C: 10.5 mm2/s

[Pennasol Lightrun 2000 10W-40 свежее]

Pennasol oils are based on recylced oils, so often acidic but also low priced and strong add pack.